Via: UK.AC.EARN-RELAY; 13 OCT 89 11:09:11 GMT Received: from UKACRL by UK.AC.RL.IB (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 0743; Fri, 13 Oct 89 11:09:25 BS Received: from CEARN.cern.ch by UKACRL.BITNET (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 3848; Fri, 13 Oct 89 11:09:24 B Received: by CEARN (Mailer R2.03B) id 7012; Fri, 13 Oct 89 09:25:07 GVA Date: Fri, 13 Oct 89 01:00:36 MDT Reply-To: INFO-ATARI16@MIL.ARMY.WSMR-SIMTEL20 Sender: INFO-ATARI16 Discussion Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was INFO-A16@MARIST From: INFO-ATARI16-REQUEST@MIL.ARMY.WSMR-SIMTEL20 Subject: INFO-ATARI16 Digest V89 #515 Comments: To: INFO-ATARI16@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-ATARI16 Digest Fri, 13 Oct 89 Volume 89 : Issue 515 Today's Topics: 1040St for sale or possible trade Avant-Garde's PC_DDRVR.SYS and PC_HDH.SYS? Databases Get Current Directory Help With FTP Binary Laser C and TOS 1.4 PD Word Processors PMFS Serial Disk Driver (New version) Stop griping for a moment ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 13 Oct 89 01:30:34 GMT From: gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!aplcen!jhunix!ins_bac@tut.cis.oh io-state.edu (Ajay Choudhri) Subject: 1040St for sale or possible trade For Sale or Trade for PC clone. Complete Atari Package -Atari 1040ST computer features 800k DS drive internal capable of reading MS-DOS and TOS disks mouse 1 megabyte of memory (1024k) TOS v1.4 eproms installed (latest version) -Atari Sm-124 Monochrome Monitor high resolution, fine dot pitch monitor -20 disks of PD utilities, games, applications to start up with some original, most PD. computer is capable of fine MAC emulation with commerical package called Spectre GCR and will emulate PC a AT speed with Norton SI rating of 3.0 with package called PC-ditto II. Excellent machine, these two packages are not included. (YOU guys should know this) Sell for 800 dollars or trade for PC clone. please contact the seller at his beeper at 305-353-5303 for fast response. or e-mail me and I will relay the message. thanks Ajay Choudhri ins_bac@jhunix.UUCP ins_bac@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU .. !uunet!mimsy!aplcen!jhunix!ins_bac C&P telephone 301-467-4223. ------------------------------ Date: 11 Oct 89 11:15:44 GMT From: mcsun!ukc!mucs!liv-cs!powell@uunet.uu.net Subject: Avant-Garde's PC_DDRVR.SYS and PC_HDH.SYS? In article <815@lzaz.ATT.COM>, hcj@lzaz.ATT.COM (HC Johnson) writes: > In article <126044@sun.Eng.Sun.COM>, kron%aiki@Sun.COM (Kenneth Kron) writes: >> From article <1989Oct8.202742.10601@cs.dal.ca>, by silvert@cs.dal.ca (Bill Silvert): >> > Lars-Erik Osterud recently pointed out that you can use >> > Avant-Garde's PC_DDRVR.SYS to read normal ST disks on a PC. >> >> How do you get pc_ddrvr.sys, is this sold as PC software or what ? > > pc_ddrvr.sys is a TSR program supplied with PC-Ditto to allow ATARI > partitions D,E,F etc to be accessed from MS/DOS running under the > emulater. It has no other magical properties. > > Howard C. Johnson Isn't PC_DDRVR.SYS a driver for 720K floppies for MSDOS versions 2.x??? I thought that PC_HDH.SYS was the driver to allow access to more than one hard disk partition. By the way, has anyone ever got this driver to work? I would like to use my other hard disk partitions, but cannot figure out how to get set it up in the CONFIG.SYS file. The file HARDDISK.DOC on the PC-DITTO disk is meant to tell you about this, but on my disk I can't read this file because of bad sectors (I've got a second hand copy.) Could someone please show me an example of how to access partitions D,E & F from PC-DITTO I? Thanks. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "she wants me t' say what she wants t' say - B. Dylan (Some other kinds she wants me t' say what she can understand" of songs... #3) Mark Powell ARPA usqb015%hp1.hp.liv.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk JANET usqb015@uk.ac.liv.hp.hp1 UUCP ...!mcvax!ukc!hp1.hp.liv.ac.uk!usqb015 ------------------------------ Date: 13 Oct 89 03:36:38 GMT From: gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!ginosko!ctrsol!sdsu!crash!pnet01!dm@tut.cis.ohio-state.e du (Dan Melson) Subject: Databases This is a repeated question. I'm in the market for a database, and having no experience with them, would appreciate the views of the net on them. The more specific and detailed, the better, of course. I originally posted this about five days ago, and got exactly five responses, three of which were 'could you let me know, too'. At this point, replies via either e-mail or public means are more than welcome. Those of you who maintained silence for fear of deluging the recipient are hereby invited to attempt it. I'll summarize the e-mail responses I get. DM ------------------------------ Date: 11 Oct 89 21:06:34 GMT From: hpfcso!hpldola!jg@hplabs.hp.com (Joe Gilray) Subject: Get Current Directory When writing a GEM application, how do you get the current directory? I want to be able to use fsel_input (or a replacement) and pass it the directory that the program was run in. Thank you for any help. -Joe Gilray ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 89 01:51 CDT From: MICHAEL WHITTENBURG Subject: Help With FTP Binary I'm kinda new at this stuff, but I've been having some trouble getting arc'd files from ftp sites... specifically terminator. I think it has something to do with the setings of my VAX ftp end since I've been able to successfully send binary files from my ST to the Vax and back, but I've not been able to get one FTP'd program down to unarc correctly. Also, is there a program around, (vax arc) so that I can check the integrity of the files before I waste time kermiting them to my ST? Any help would be appreciated. Michael Whittenburg ece%mwhittenburg@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu . . . ------------------------------ Date: 13 Oct 89 02:29:33 GMT From: microsoft!w-darekm@uunet.uu.net (Darek Mihocka) Subject: Laser C and TOS 1.4 Re: Laser C 2.0 and TOS 1.4 Scott, as far as I know, there is no way to make Laser C 2.0 run on TOS 1.4. I called Megamax about this way back when and what the guy told me is that there never was a PATCH.PRG. They decided to fix up Laser C instead, which eventually became Laser C 2.1. He also told me there was some way to patch up the LASER.CFG file file but I tried many times and couldn't figure out his instructions. (The byte pattern he told me to look for simply was not in the .CFG file). About 6 weeks later they finally shipped version 2.1. They fixed a bunch of bugs but sadly enough, Laser C 2.1 still has serious code generation bugs that date back to the days of Megamax C. I have reported these bugs to them several times and each time they tell me they fixed them. They also refuse to put in an option to turn off that stupid stupid STUPID disk cache in the shell. In more cases than not, the desk cache actually SLOWS DOWN hard disk access, by a factor of 10 in some cases. I'd prefer if they got out of the disk cache business and stuck to fixing up the compiler. I don't appreciate having a compiler generate incorrect code on me, which is what Laser C will do the odd time. I just stick to assembler for now while somebody writes a decent C compiler for the ST. - Darek ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Darek Mihocka ST Xformer II CIS: (out of order) Box 2624, Station B Quick Utilities GEnie: DAREKM Kitchener, Ontario MegaBlit SSG SPX DELPHI: DAREKM N2H 6N2 Shareware, not Vaporware BIX: darekm Canada Blitter chip sucks! CheapNet: ...!uw-beaver!microsoft!w-darekm (519)-747-0386 A mind is a terrible thing to waste, so JUST SAY NO TO TOS. Opinions expressed are my own and not those of anyone not named Darek Mihocka. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: 12 Oct 89 17:46:23 GMT From: hpl-opus!hpnmdla!hpsad!randyh@hplabs.hp.com (Randy Hosler) Subject: PD Word Processors > Check out STWriter, a text-based WP from Atari! And it's FREE. Is it in one of the archives? If not, could you post it? Randy ... Acquiring minds want to know. ------------------------------ Date: 12 Oct 89 14:12:48 GMT From: gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!henry.jpl.nasa.gov!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!peregrine!ccic pg!paulm@apple.com (tmp Paul Moreau usenet acct) Subject: PMFS Serial Disk Driver (New version) Friday I'll posting a new verion of PMFS to accomodate slower baud rates and configurable built-in cache in the driver. The driver cache can be anywhere from 0 slots (blocks) to as many as you have memory for. The cache only caches Single Block I/O because 90% of these are you directory and FAT read/writes. Just cacheing those is a great speed-up. The cache is configured during the first installation of the driver. Either type pmfs ?blocks? from a CLI or rename pmfs.prg to pmfs.ttp and pass the number of blocks in the dialog box. I'll still looking for a way to emulate ? the GEM [ESC] key function. Is this clearing TOS's cached directory blocks or something ? Where do I find them to clear them myself ? .===========================================================. | ### ####### ### | N O R T H | /==============\ | | ### ### ### | A M E R I C A |< An STC Company >| | ### ####### ####### | (was CCI) | \==============/ | |-----------------------------------------------------------| | UUCP: ...ccicpg!dl2!paulm | Paul L. Moreau | | or ...ccicpg!dl1!paulm | Diagnostics Software Eng. | | or ...ccicpg!paulm | Irvine, California | `===========================================================' ------------------------------ Date: 12 Oct 89 23:42:37 GMT From: gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!aplcen!jhunix!dat_08@tut.cis.ohi o-state.edu (Jared Brennan) Subject: Stop griping for a moment In article <462a4b3d.14a1f@force.UUCP> covertr@force.UUCP (Richard E. Covert) writes: >Ok, now weill I didn't go to the WAACE Atari fest last weekend, I heard that >the STacy on display at the show was the same old prototype that Atari has >been showing for months!! It wasn't even a production model. > No, and no, and no. It was Gadgets by Small's Stacy, not Atari's. Whether or not it is a production model or not I can't tell you. >P.S. so, where was the TT, 1040STe, CD ROMs, PC DITTO II?? Did Atari >have the TOS 1.4 EPROMs for sell at the show?? Did Atari, the company, >show anything NEW at the show?? > Dealers had the TOS 1.4 EPROMs for sale at the show. Atari has already stated that all TOS 1.4 ROMs will be sold through dealers, so it's no use asking if Atari had TOS 1.4 EPROMs for sale. PC Ditto II was not shown because of scheduling problems. PC Ditto II is not SHIPPING because it's not ready yet -- it's waiting on a cable assembly which will make it simpler to install. The TT, 1040STe, and the CD-ROM were not shown. If they had, no doubt you would still be complaining about vaporware. Just as well they didn't, eh, so you could be justified . . . I wasn't there long enough to address any of your other questions, so I won't include them. Sorry. >Richard Covert ------------------------------ End of INFO-ATARI16 Digest V89 Issue #515 *****************************************